Re: AW: [Full-Disclosure] no more public exploits

["Bernard J. Duffy" <bduffy@xxxxxxxxx>]

Are you saying that the military has standardized best practices that
mandate the immediate installation of vendor OS patches? If they do, I
highly doubt that such policies are widely adhered to.

The fact is, quickly released security patches can and often do break
applications, particularly when the system configuration is less
common. Ask any Windows NT administrator about that.

I would venture to guess that you would not be a happy camper if the
IT organization supporting the systems that process your payroll or
banking applied code fixes without a robust testing procedure.

Bernard Duffy
bduffy@xxxxxxxxxxxx

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:13:04 +0800, tcleary2@xxxxxxxxxx
<tcleary2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Cael Abal said:
> 
> >Realistically,the lack of a widespread published exploit means an
> >attack on any given machine is less likely.  An admin who chooses
> >to ignore these probabilities isn't looking at their job with the right
> perspective.
> 
> You missed the "IMHO".
> 
> In the Military your generalisation is probably not a self evident truth.
> 
> To quote another posters sig. "Knowing what you don't know is more
> important
> than knowing what you know." and I would add that that's because what you
> do know you can try to deal with.
> 
> Enough of the philosophy class.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> tom.
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