Re: [Full-Disclosure] Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect

["Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>]

Not to mention that blaming a person for not being bullet proof when the 
murderer pulls the trigger is, well, stupid. Anyone thinking that way is 
in serious denial or in need of a reality check.

Ben Nelson wrote:
> You need to keep in mind that affected != infected.  Many of us admins who
> don't even administrate a single windows box were affected by amount of
> bandwidth consumed by people who were infected.  This thing effectively
> created a denial of service on many networks and any host trying to use
> that network (be it an infected windows box or one of my hundreds of unix
> boxes) was, at the very least, significantly slowed down.
> 
> --Ben
> 
> On August 29, 10:18 am "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>if the worm was active in anticipation of a patch that intoduced a new
>>exploit vector and it took advantage of that, is'nt the vendor (
>>microsoft ) to blame then? As well there was plenty of advanced warning
>>on this exploit long before msblast was an issue. It seems to me that it
>>is each admins responsiblity, if they were affected ( infected ) not the
>>coder. if this were the case the LastStage(of)Delerium would be the
>>blamed party for developing and releasing the exploit, but alas.. they
>>are not of USA orgin. SUE LITIGATE BLAME PROCECUTE
>>
>>as long as the general public remains uneducated ( and many Fortune500
>>admins) we will continue
>>to see this type of action against coders for blame, not the people
>>actualy responsible for allowing
>>thier infrastructure to become targets in the first place. im sure this
>>ignorance is a byproduct of
>>the weak mind of most Americans as they are in a constant state to blame
>>other for thier own
>>problems, this can be seen everywhere in todays American society...
>>commonly refered as to the "poor me" syndrome..
>>Q. why did you murder the victim?
>>A. my father never told me he loved me
>>( real answer - you pulled the triger )
>>
>>Q. why was my network compromised?
>>A. because of someone else
>>( real answer - you suck at internet )
>>
>>
>>muh 2 bytes,
>>morning_wood
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Charles Ballowe" <hangman-fulldisclosure@steelballs.org>
>>To: <full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com>
>>Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:23 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:14:51PM -0000, 00005702@no-id.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> And this kid is dumb enough be be living in the U.S.A. man, when are
>>>> people going to learn, next we will here that he has been charged
>>>> with every penny the worm caused and will be sentence under the new
>>>> and ever improving Terrorist act.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting -- the net cost of the worm is actually a net $0.00. For
>>> every penny that a company chalks up as a cost to the worm, some
>>> other company must be chalking up the cost as a profit from the worm.
>>>
>>> -Charlie
>>>
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Daniel C. Sobral                   (8-DCS)
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