Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability

["Geoff Shively" <gshively@xxxxxxxx>]

Full disclosure... True. Nobody is taking issue with the content, just the 
timing.

10 days is an unreal expectation. Though 10 days may feel like a long time to 
you sir, it whizez by inside of a growth company such as Google.

This type of disclosure is where the motivation for OIS comes from. I am not 
saying I agree with the OIS 'partner' agendas or their execution- though there 
is some genuine interest in setting basic guidelines based on industry 
experiance, not regulating research or its biproducts (imho not gunna happen). 
So where is the middle ground as it applies to research.


Cheers,
Geoff Shively
Chief Scientist, Founder
PivX Solutions, Inc.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tremaine <tremaine@xxxxxxxxx>
To: System Outage <system_outage@xxxxxxxxx>
CC: full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon Jul 05 07:46:16 2004
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability

It's about posting security advisories.  The initial poster advises
they notified the gmail team, and posted this advisory 10 days later.

It is immaterial whether an application is in alpha, beta or
production.  If the software or application is in use outside the
development team, and there is a security issue, it is relevant to
this list.


It's called Full Disclosure for a reason... not partial disclosure,
not disclosure of production applications only... Full Disclosure.

If you want partial disclosure, you may need to rethink your
subscription to the list.



-- 
Tremaine
IT Security Consultant


----- Original Message -----
From: System Outage <system_outage@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 06:46:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability
To: full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


If it's not about respect then what is it about? 
 
You have no respect for the Gmail Team, that's for sure.
 
I guess this list isn't about respect...
 
It's about kiddies posting advisories and exploits for fun and little
care for the vendor(s).
 
 
Cheerio


 

amforward@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
System Outage wrote:

|The correct channel to post such "bugs" is the Gmail contact link for "bug 
|reports". 

I have already contacted Gmail about 10 days ago, but I have not received any 
replies till this moment.

|If you had waited until the Gmail dev team declared gmail a public release, 
|you would have gained more respect in the security community scene.

I don't think this is about respect afterall.

Regards,
Ahmed Motaz

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