Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability

[System Outage <system_outage@xxxxxxxxx>]

If it's about posting advisories, why do many decide to post the exploit along 
with the advisory. To me this is not a responsible thing to do. Whoever knows 
how many script kiddies are sleeping on this list and taking advantage of the 
free exploit giveaway's seen here.
 
10 days isn't an awful long time and the vendor never made primary contact with 
the user in question. Meaning, for whatever reason the e-mail may not have been 
delivered and because of this the Gmail Team could easily of been caught short 
on this issue and a serious hole exposed to the public, before the vendor 
(Gmail) has had a chance to scramble together an incident response and get the 
hole patched out, before a serious number of account's become compromised on 
the service.
 
There is a difference between responsible "Full Disclosure" and irresponsible 
"Full Disclosure".
 
 
Cheerio
 
 


Tremaine <tremaine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's about posting security advisories. The initial poster advises
they notified the gmail team, and posted this advisory 10 days later.

It is immaterial whether an application is in alpha, beta or
production. If the software or application is in use outside the
development team, and there is a security issue, it is relevant to
this list.


It's called Full Disclosure for a reason... not partial disclosure,
not disclosure of production applications only... Full Disclosure.

If you want partial disclosure, you may need to rethink your
subscription to the list.



-- 
Tremaine
IT Security Consultant


----- Original Message -----
From: System Outage 
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 06:46:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability
To: full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


If it's not about respect then what is it about? 

You have no respect for the Gmail Team, that's for sure.

I guess this list isn't about respect...

It's about kiddies posting advisories and exploits for fun and little
care for the vendor(s).


Cheerio




amforward@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
System Outage wrote:

|The correct channel to post such "bugs" is the Gmail contact link for "bug 
|reports". 

I have already contacted Gmail about 10 days ago, but I have not received any 
replies till this moment.

|If you had waited until the Gmail dev team declared gmail a public release, 
|you would have gained more respect in the security community scene.

I don't think this is about respect afterall.

Regards,
Ahmed Motaz

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