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Re: [Full-Disclosure] AV "feature" does more DDoS than Sobig



nice point..
While very few are willing or able to take the "draconian" measures i am 
taking..two things..what i will be doing when i turn on the "virus wall" 
is implement a whitelist....if you are on my whitelist..the mail gets 
dropped before it gets scanned.  Any .<compressed> files will go into 
immediate quarantine<since i have a 10 gig drive for the firewall server>

Mind you i would only do this(the immediate quarantine of compressed 
attachments) if someone did that zip bomb..otherwise i will just use the 
whitelist and attachment filters..<G>

Steve Wray wrote:

> I'm just going to snip out all the previous stuff
> because really this isn't strictly following on 
> from it, but is related.
> 
> *If* you are going to implement an AV system
> on your servers to filter incoming mail for
> viruses then you need to make sure that its
> properly configured. Obviously.
> 
> And there are a *ton* of things to get right.
> 
> You are dealing with 'explosive material';
> viruses, trojans and *other* files intended to
> cause ill effect.
> 
> Now, I am going to attach a binary to this email.
> Its only about 1.5K, thats not too big an attachment
> is it?
> 
> Cool. Just don't try unpacking it unless you have over
> 20G of disk space available. Oh and that applies
> to your email antivirus system as well.
> 
> You might want to check the AV spool space to make sure that
> it properly cleaned up after discovering that there
> was too much to decompress (assuming that they even bother
> with bz2 compressed files; one can do a similar trick
> with zip).
> 
> This file is created from about 20G of null characters.
> 
> I take no responsibility for any ill effects of
> unpacking this file; you have been warned and besides its
> a great opportunity to figure out a workaround.
> Imagine if spammers started attaching these zip-bombs!
> ewwwwww
> 
> Check the configuration of your AV, check every detail
> and think about it; its a public service to the whole internet
> not just your own users.
> 
> 
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