RE: [Full-Disclosure] JAP back doored

["Drew Copley" <dcopley@eeye.com>]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary E. Miller [mailto:gem@rellim.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:44 PM
> To: Drew Copley
> Cc: 'Florian Weimer'; full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] JAP back doored
> 
> 
> Yo Drew!
> 
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Drew Copley wrote:
> 
> > > Like everywhere else, ISPs are forced to install wiretapping 
> > > equipment, which is basically the same.
> >
> > In the US, criminals - not citizens - may be wiretapped at the ISP 
> > level.
> 
> I suggest you do a google on CARNIVORE.  ISPs are required to 
> allow the FBI to jack in a CARNIVORE box to your net, so it 
> can sniff everything, on request.
> 
> Here is a court order requiring Earthlink to install a CARNIVORE.
> 	http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/cd_cal_order.html


Carnivore is supposed to only tap suspects, not everyone. 

Carnivore captures on the addresses and subject lines of emails, not even the content.

You compare this to the German police forcing German developers to secretly trojanize German software.





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