Re: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster](fwd)

[Michael Gale <michael@bluesuperman.com>]

	Please ... if a MCSE is in charge of a network and something happens, like everyone on the network gets the MSBLASTER worm then the MCSE is as much at fault as Microsoft is. 

Microsoft builds the piece of sh*t but the MCSE are the ones pushing it down everyone's throat saying "Look at how user friend and secure this is".

Any real MCSE would know that windows is crap and should therefor do a better job of protecting the internal network.

Michael.




On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:42:17 -0500 (CDT)
Ron DuFresne <dufresne@winternet.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Schmehl, Paul L wrote:
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bryan K. Watson [mailto:bwatson@netTracers.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:46 AM
> > > To: 'Byron Copeland'; 'Ron DuFresne'; full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by
> > > W32Blaster] (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > > That is a load of B.S. if I ever heard it.
> > >
> > > I can attest to the fact that this is indeed.... NOT BS...
> > >
> > > True, there are a bunch of MCSE's that are on top of
> > > things....however, there are way too many scam artists with
> > > MCSE's who only give a damn about getting a bigger consulting
> > > fee than securing their customer's networks.
> >
> > And of course there isn't a single *nix consultant around who isn't
> > worth his/her weight in gold and doing an absolutely fabulous job......
> >
> > Shitty people come in all shapes and sizes and infest every profession.
> > They're as unavoidable as air.
> 
> Kinda feeling like all fingers point home huh?
> 
> Why blame the poor MCSE's when one should perhaps fault the vendor again,
> for not only failing to provide a viable patching system that does not
> overburden these folks, but also undertrains them in perperation for the
> world of hurt they are about to be employed in.
> 
> There, that should satisfy all those  indignant MCSE's that try to do the
> right thing, but are swamped with the rate of and poor quality of patches
> they have to deal with.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ron DuFresne
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> OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.
> 
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